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Large Company Optimization from the Trenches

When it comes to a successful post-click marketing program, conversion optimization is key. Here Seth Berman, director of marketing for Blue Shield California, points out seven characteristics of highly effective conversion marketers with high-ROI post-click programs.

Recently I was a panelist at Conversion Conference West in San Francisco. The panel, entitled Large Company Optimization from the Trenches, was moderated by FutureNow’s Howard Kaplan, and my fellow panelists were Andres Amezquita from Mattel, James Niehaus from Symantec, and Joe Weller from RealNetworks.

80% Conversion Rate

Andres kicked things off by sharing that Mattel’s conversion on some of its properties are 80%. Some might wonder why he needs to worry about conversion optimization, but data geeks like us understand two important things. First, the higher your conversion rate, the lower your relative margin of error. A 5% conversion rate with a sample size of 10,000 at 95% confidence level has a margin of error of 0.43. That’s 9% of the conversion rate. If, however, your conversion rate is 80%, the margin of error is higher at 0.78 but it’s only 1% of the conversion rate. Second, small improvements at an 80% conversion rate yield big results. If every conversion out of our 10,000 sample size is worth $100, a 1% improvement on a 5% conversion rate is worth $500. But a 1% improvement on an 80% conversion rate is worth $8,000. The bottom line is that the business value of incremental conversion improvements actually increases as your conversion rate increases.

IT: Friend or Foe?

Next, Symantec’s James Niehaus shared seven characteristics of highly effective conversion marketers.

  1. Executive or revenue owner support
  2. Focus on quick wins
  3. Always be testing
  4. Cross functional buy-in and dedicated resources
  5. Avoid IT whenever possible
  6. You need to be technical
  7. Get the word out

Avoiding the IT department particularly resonated with the audience, but the panel showed compassion for what it takes to balance conflicting priorities in IT.

Consult the Experts

Joe Weller of RealNetworks unabashedly endorsed post-click marketing and conversion rate optimization consulting from the experts as well as the MarketMotive conversion optimization course that he took himself. His top tip was to share both successes and failures. He found that being able to report out on failures was beneficial because it conditioned management to expect some tests to fail. He also found sharing failures helpful because some tests were based on opinions of management, and it was important for them to see for themselves when their ideas didn’t work.

Keep it Simple

As the final panelist to address the audience, my objective was to keep things simple. To that end, I advocated that the most important thing conversion marketers can do is to pursue one objective at a time. By focusing on this at Blue Shield, we increased conversion of our single objective by 600% through a series of tests. There are so many things you could optimize, and by picking one at a time you can guarantee improvements. Another advantage to focusing on one objective with a series of tests is that you take the pressure off any single test to deliver the improvements. In this way, you diversify the risk across a number of tests and bring attention to the outcome of the program instead of each individual test.

Miss Conversion Conference West? No problem. Conversion Conference East is October 19-20, 2011 in New York City. Click here for more information.

 

Seth Berman

Director of Global Marketing at BabyCenter where I’m accountable for acquisition, email, and product marketing. Born in Boston, MBA from Duke University, at home in San Francisco.

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  • http://www.rich-page.com Rich Page

    Wow – surely 80% is impossible to get for any major website with varied traffic sources. I would love to see that website…

  • Anonymous

    Good post, Seth, and thanks for sharing these large company tips. I also think simplifying is a core marketing value (and one of my six keys to B2B marketing success, by the way.) Certainly, converting traffic to your website is a key goal.

    Honored to be a contributing author here too.

    Jeff Ogden, the Fearless Competitor
    President, Find New Customers
    http://www.findnewcustomers.com
    @fearlesscomp

  • Anonymous

    80% conversion rate???!@#$%^&

    Don’t tease us like that. Tell us how he did it.

    Interview him.

    Take notes or point us to his blog, whitepaper, slideshare etc.

  • http://www.twitter.com/allenkristina Kristina Allen

    Hi Mark, we will try to interview and/or get the case study and slides to share. Will keep you updated!

  • http://www.twitter.com/allenkristina Kristina Allen

    Hi Rich, I’ve contacted Seth to see if he can get more information to share about the Mattel portion of the post.

  • http://www.twitter.com/allenkristina Kristina Allen

    Hi Rich, I’ve contacted Seth to see if he can get more information to share about the Mattel portion of the post.

  • http://twitter.com/sbermo Seth Berman

    Rich – Thanks for your comment. I’ve contacted Andres to see what details he’s comfortable sharing since his conference slides did not indicate which of the sites converted at 80%. What I do recall is that Andres indicated it’s for one of the products that has a passionate fan base of collectors and enthusiasts that look forward to each new product release. It’s important to note that many times, we get in the way of a ready-to-buy consumer with poor user experience. To me, the fact that Mattel gets 80% conversion in instances when users have high purchase intent means they are getting out of the way and letting the consumer have what she wants. Would conversion be so high if they didn’t know their audience so well?

    Next, Mattel’s example wasn’t the only 80% conversion rate at Conversion Conference. Mozilla shared that it gets 80% conversion on this page: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/new/. Again, visitors probably have high download intent when they land on this page, but that makes the 80% conversion (download rate) no less impressive.

  • http://twitter.com/sbermo Seth Berman

    Mark – Thanks for your comment, and take a look at my response to Rich’s comment below as it also applies to yours.

  • Anonymous

    Seth, Kristina,

    thanks will definitely look forward to that.

  • http://makethemclick.com.au/library Mark @ Make Them Click

    Thanks again,

    I’ve also posted my take on why the Mozilla page works so well and what business can learn from it.

    http://makethemclick.com.au/library/conversion-rates/80-percent-conversion-rate-and-how-to-do-it

  • http://twitter.com/sbermo Seth Berman

    Mark – I connected with Andres today, and for confidentiality reasons he prefers not to share the specific site that is converting at 80%. He reiterated what I have shared, which is, “this happens in one of our sites that offers a limited edition product to a group of avid fans/collectors”.

  • http://twitter.com/josephpweller josephpweller

    Thanks for the post, Seth. Looks like our fellow presenter is getting all the attention :) My take is when you have a product with such high brand recognition (any of Mattel’s products), you naturally get a lot of branded traffic, which leads to high conversion rates. Without that brand recognition, you’re not going to get 80% conversion rates. On another note, an interesting take-away from Eric Hansen’s talk (about Firefox landing page testing) was: the number one element that contributed to increased installs was the download stats box (the box on the page that says over x,xxx,xxx,xxx people have installed Firefox). So even with all that branded Firefox traffic, the “social proof” was still important enough to positively impact conversion rates.

  • http://twitter.com/sbermo Seth Berman

    Joe – Thanks for your comment. That’s a great point about the Firefox download page. I also recall that when they tested adding elements below the download button, it actually decreased conversion. What I take from both the Mattel and Firefox examples is when you have a low-consideration conversion, recognize it and get out of the user’s way.

  • Josh

    Thank you Seth, but an 80% conversion rate.. how is this possible?

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